some calendar issues in terms of the request from spain to october 21st is when there are regional elections and sometimes probably after that there will be a request from spain for some sort of a bailout. >> i always find the way the market looks at these things is rather extraordinary. you have the most important banks and what's happening is it's saying, look, we welcome it and the stock goes higher. bbva, another player, when you have bailouts, the stock is supposed to go lower. think about our country when bank of america decided to take the money. then they had to go to an equity law firm. this is encouraging to me. i would think this actual bailout is one that says, we are now past, the pig is much further along. you don't want a python swallowing a pig, but it's going to follow it when it is finished. >> words to live by, jim. words to live by. >> i think about that often, actually. >> we just listened to an incredible hour of television on "squawk box" with zell talking about what he's seen in the economy, talking more about corporate i.t. upgrade cycles. here's what zell said not t